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Microsoft said in August that, beginning Oct. Yahoo is not the only major IM provider whose recent actions have shut out Trillian. Yahoo spokeswoman Mary Osako declined to comment on the patch.
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Scott Werndorfer, co-founder of Cerulean Studios, confirmed the patch releases but declined to comment further.
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Three days later, Cerulean issued a patch for Trillian Pro 2.0 and said it would release patches for 1.0 and. The patch release is significant because upgrades Yahoo made last month blocked Trillian from integrating Yahoo Messenger buddy lists.
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The software does not communicate directly with other IM services but instead lets people integrate buddy lists from other services-such as AOL Instant Messenger, MSN Messenger and Yahoo Messenger-into its own interface. 74 version and its for-pay Pro 1.0 and Pro 2.0 versions to integrate Yahoo buddy lists into Trillian. The patches, released Thursday according to Trillian's Web site, allow users of its free.
The tipping point of Jabber will be reached much sooner than it will be for Linux vs Windows.Cerulean Studios' popular Trillian instant-messaging software has released a new patch that should allow its users to regain connectivity with Yahoo Messenger, the latest move in a cat-and-mouse game between the two companies. I say that only to suggest that it IS possible to use the network effect to migrate entire groups of users. I intend to ensure they all have a jabber-capable IM client (miranda? win-gaim?) in the next year, so they can move over as well when AOL gets stupid about ICQ in a year. On a related note, I’ve successfully converted an entire arm of my own peer group to ICQ from MSN, and onto Trillian, in only a few short weeks, just by getting them to run a multi-protocol client and waiting for MSN to become stupid about it all. Once has to have the brochure bullets in place. Even if they do so poorly, I’ve worked at (or owned) too many ISPs not to know exactly how that works in any real competitive market.
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Even if it’s just a minority, ISPs *will* install and manage such a server if it means they lose more money in clients than it takes to run it. ISP users will start to Get It, like my mom’s quake skills, and begin to demand a jabberd like they the vocal ones demand a usenet server. Yeah, Oliver, you suggested that an IM server isn’t a ‘core’ brochureware bullet item like email, but I suspect that IM (via jabber or similar) *will* move to a service whose cost is shared amongst the networks themselves, just like email/usenet (and, in a way, http). Does that mean it’s only a coupla bucks per mail server worth of extra resources when it’s all divvied up? Uh oh, someone went and spread the HUGE and apparently multi-million dollar cost among the millions of mail servers. The accounts are all like email, and the jabber server can be run concurrently with the mail server on the same machine. Oliver, Anonymous, I totally agree with Mike here.Ĭonsider: The jabber IM server is all but meant to be run by the individual netadmin that currently runs the corp/ISP mail server. Collapse replies (4) Reply View in chronology It’s all about the money, ’cause Lord knows, Bill needs more money.
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Microsoft is claiming that their upgrade is due to security concerns, but it also locks out users of Microsoft Sidewinder GameVoice, a VOIP program that they’ve decided to stop supporting that relied on MSN Messenger v4.6, *and* it gives them an opportunity to try to make some money off of people and replace their lost ad revenue.
When people start using a 3rd party tool like Trillian (which I use and love, BTW) then the IM service providers are essentially giving away a free service and since the dot com bomb, there’s just no such thing as a free lunch any more. If you can name an absolutely free e-mail service that doesn’t rely on ads to generate revenue, I’d like to hear about it. The companies that do provide IM services that are open to people outside of their subscribers produce clients that have built in advertisements under the assumption that everyone who uses the service is either a) a paid subscriber or b) someone using ad revenue producing software. IM services are ‘optional’ although most people use them and are usually only included in ISP packages like AOL or MSN, not Comcast, InsightBB, etc.
It’s like buying a car, you expect it to have an engine and 4 wheels. People sign up for internet service and they expect to get e-mail. That’s not a fair comparison as e-mail is pretty much a standard with almost all non-commercial internet services (i.e., AOL, MSN vs.
Mike – I think you were responding to the previous poster about how there needs to be a profitable business reason to offer an IM service, and you compared it to e-mail.
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